Went out last night for my birthday and came home to see....

My first negative Smiley Sad

Sigh

 

The buyer had sent a message complaining that a pendant he had bought got damaged very easily then 2 minutes later he left the negative...the first feedback he's ever left.  Sheesh.

 

I've sold a couple dozen of those pendants and have never had anyone complain about them. He didn't say how or in what way it was damaged and I haven't written back yet as I figured that it was better to wait. I'm not sure what I want to do or say.

 

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Sit back, be patient and see what they respond with.

 

Try to work something out with them.Maybe they'll do a revision.

 

I don't think eBay will do a removal on this one.

 

I'm sorry this happened to you. You don't deserve it. Got yourself a nOOb who's not privy to the system.

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Happy birthday PJ.Smiley Happy

 

Sorry to hear about the Neg, it happens to the best of us.

 

Could it have been damaged in transit ?

 

Send a polite message with an apology.

 

Follow that with " What Can I Do To Make You Happy "

 

That is usually the best way to guage the attitude of the buyer.

 

Worth a shot as it has worked for me in the past.

 

Good luck.

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An outdoorsy type with a lap dog who likes biking and hiking .......................

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Did they file for their money back?  If not then don't sweat it.  Unfortunately in life you always run into these kind of people.  I'll never understand why anyone would leave bad feedback without at least trying to work for a solution.  Maybe just another newbie buyer.

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Thanks Steve. I don't think that he will contact me unless I write back so I need some time to figure out what I want to say, if anything.

I almost replied last night..I'm glad that I didn't. lol

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Hi BB...thanks.

No it's unlikely that it got damaged in transit. He's had it a few days already and his message gives me the impression that it got damaged after he received it. The surface is smooth so it may have gotten scratched while being worn....anything is possible I guess. I'll have to find out for sure.

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@i*m-still-here wrote:

An outdoorsy type with a lap dog who likes biking and hiking .......................


LOL

No...darn it!!


It's probably a good thing though as both my husband and my dog would probably be jealous.

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@farmingnorth wrote:

Did they file for their money back?  If not then don't sweat it.  Unfortunately in life you always run into these kind of people.  I'll never understand why anyone would leave bad feedback without at least trying to work for a solution.  Maybe just another newbie buyer.


No they haven't filed and if I didn't have the neutrals it wouldn't bother me as much. That and the fact that this month my ebay sales have been the slowest ever so it worries me that the neg might make me even less visibile in search.

 

I'm sure things will be fine and work out but it has been a frustrating month.

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"so I need some time to figure out what I want to say,"

 

Sorry it happened to you.

 

I would suggest waiting until Monday to reply.

 

Why?  Obviously the buyer was very annoyed resulting in the first feedback ever posted.  It often takes a few days for the mind to clear.

 

If it were me, my message would...

1) express regrets the item was not satisfactory

2) lead the buyer to check my extensive long term feedback to indicate the problem is obviously not the norm as thousands of other buyers have been satisfied

3) regognize that as a new user (registered only a month ago) he may not be aware of how the feedback system works on eBay and how damaging a negative feedback may be to a seller.  I would direct the buyer to review eBay's help page on feedback:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/feedback/howitworks.html

 

Suggesting reading:

Should I leave neutral or negative Feedback for a seller?

Feedback comments become a permanent part of a seller's record. If you are a buyer, contact your seller to try to resolve any issues before leaving neutral or negative Feedback. Please make sure that your comments are fair, based in fact, and relate to the specific transaction for which you received the Feedback request.

 

4) since the new user may not have been aware of how feedback works, it may be appropriate to suggest to the buyer to agree removing the negative feedback.  Should the buyer agree, then the request for feedback removal would be sent.

 

It is a longshot but it may work.  The buyer may feel "guilty' for having overreacted so quickly.

 

I would not offer a refund or any conpensation at this time.  I would wait to see what reaction I get from the buyer before decising how to proceed further to give the buyer satisfaction.

 

Good Luck

 

 

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No, that's who you're dealing with.

 

Look at the completed items and you can get a feel for who it is.    Pretty focused buying:  Weights, Jogging, Skateboard, Camping, Biking ...........with a  Chihuahua.........  and jewelry from you.

 

I don't know if it helps to know that you're dealing with Lance Armstrong........... but it might not hurt.

Maybe he's on steroids? Smiley Happy

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Happy Belated Birthday

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Thank you to everyone for your suggestions....they really have been helpful. it is great to be able to get some different viewpoints on an issue.

 

 

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@i*m-still-here wrote:

No, that's who you're dealing with.

 

Look at the completed items and you can get a feel for who it is.    Pretty focused buying:  Weights, Jogging, Skateboard, Camping, Biking ...........with a  Chihuahua.........  and jewelry from you.

 

I don't know if it helps to know that you're dealing with Lance Armstrong........... but it might not hurt.

Maybe he's on steroids? Smiley Happy


Wow..did I ever misunderstand that post! LOL

 

I had looked at his purchases and got a totally different impression. But I also had the advantage of being able to google his name.

My guess is that he's more into the skateboarding culture and not so much into the outdoors and fitness. The dog wears a sz Large coat so probably bigger than a Chihuahua...maybe a boxer?

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@nan*55 wrote:

Happy Belated Birthday


Thanks nan. I really wasn't looking forward to it but it turned out to be a good day.

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Happy Birthday PJ.

 

Exactly.    I only took a quick glance.

 

The point is that you might respond differently to a skateboarder than you would to a girl buying jewelry (or whatever).

 

You might not, but I know I would.

 

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Happy Belated Birthday ...

 

I am not a pro but I have bought my wife and I enough bling to know that pieces like that are cheaply made but that has nothing to do with you .. If your paying $50 and change for a Pendant and a chain it is because it is cheaply made why would anyone expect it to be high quality is beyond me ..

 

Sorry about the luck ... i myself have had some bad luck as well with feedback lately .

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@pjcdn2005 wrote:

@i*m-still-here wrote:

No, that's who you're dealing with.

 Look at the completed items and you can get a feel for who it is.    Pretty focused buying:  Weights, Jogging, Skateboard, Camping, Biking ...........with a  Chihuahua.........  and jewelry from you.

 I don't know if it helps to know that you're dealing with Lance Armstrong........... but it might not hurt.

Maybe he's on steroids? Smiley Happy


Wow..did I ever misunderstand that post! LOL

I had looked at his purchases and got a totally different impression. But I also had the advantage of being able to google his name.

My guess is that he's more into the skateboarding culture and not so much into the outdoors and fitness. The dog wears a sz Large coat so probably bigger than a Chihuahua...maybe a boxer?


Sorry you got this nasty present as a birthday greeting!  I hope your day up to that point had been a happy one. 

 

I'd add to the above comments that your buyer is also into military-type survival gear -- and check the T-shirt with the green slogan.  It's interesting that the only FB he's left for anybody is the neg he gave you.  This tells me he really doesn't understand the FB system, or doesn't care.  

 

I suppose you have to decide whether it's worth it to try to reason with or "educate" this buyer.  I'm not sure pointing a guy like this in the direction of eBay help pages and asking him to read up on FB procedure would be at all productive (I think Pierre may forget that not all buyers are educated, intelligent philatelists who are willing to read).  Your buyer could be the type that would turn on you in more nefarious ways if he thinks he's being lectured to.  I hate to be prejudicial, but as 'i*m-still-here' says, your approach might be different with a different type of buyer.  This is one instance where having a buyer's purchasing history visible is helpful in making a decision on how to deal with him.  

 

For what it's worth, my inclination (mostly intuition really) would be to simply offer a refund in the friendliest possible way if he'd like to return the item.  I might even throw in the return shipping cost - since it's broken anyway, have him return it by ordinary airmail - just to move things along smoothly.  

 

He's very new, likely doesn't understand eBay's system, so he may not know enough to open a case at all.  The fact that he first emailed you, then immediately entered the negFB without waiting for you to deal with his issue, says a lot about his character.  If you add a comment to his FB before finding out if he'd be happy with a refund, you may inflame him.  

 

I wouldn't ask him to revise his FB -- he probably won't know how, and he could get ticked off at the request. Personally, if I were dealing with this buyer, my main aim would be to close this transaction off as quickly and quietly as possible. After the refund, you might want to "squeeze" in your FB comment on the last possible day if you're feeling courageous. Then block him. 

 

All really unfortunate. 

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@rose-dee wrote:

 Your buyer could be the type that would turn on you in more nefarious ways if he thinks he's being lectured to.  

 

 


I didn't want to come out and say that............ but ditto...........

 

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I over the years have written up some canned responses to these kinds of things, sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. From what I see here, I wouldn't expect a lot but one never knows....you or anyone else who wants to can plagiarize anything you want from these....

 

Here is something like what I'd put as a feedback response (a couple versions here - I always try to avoid the word "you" in my responses). I find having prewritten ones helps avoid sending what I WANT to say.......

 

Buyers first contact regarding any issues. Will contact them to try to rectify.

    or

Unaware of any issue before receiving this,will contact buyer to try to rectify.

 

 

Then I'd send something like this message to them, with the appropriate wording option changes....

 

Hi! I see from the neutral feedback you left me that you were not happy with the Latin American stamps. I am sorry to hear that they were disappointing. You do have options to resolve this, if you return them intact you can receive a full refund, or a partial refund is another option as well. If you would prefer to go the partial refund route, I would look for your help to identify the appropriate refund amount given the issues you've identified. It is unfortunate that the first news I have of any problems is a neutral rating, which is damaging to my reputation, before I've had a chance to know about it or to try to work with you to resolve it! I hope that once this is resolved you will consider revising your rating. Let me know how you would like to approach resolving this and have a great weekend!!

 

Good luck.....

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