Canada Post workers stay on job

Only to refuse overtime as contract talks fall short

Someone at Ebay has assumed that the strike starts today and removed Canada Post shipping options.

That decision was premature. They did not know that job action or rotating strikes were an option for the union,

Canada Post shipping options should be returned until a National Strike begins or Canada Post locks them out.

 

 

 

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The Canadian Union of Postal Workers (CUPW) is refusing overtime as contract talks fall short. Members are being told to refuse any work beyond eight hours in a day and 40 hours in a week. Canada Post is accusing the union of showing "little meaningful movement" during mediated negotiations.

 

This could go on for a few days or a week. Meanwhile, the mail continues to move (for a little longer) but Canada Post shipping options have been removed before that was needed.

 

Please correct this mistake and reinstate the ability to ship with Canada Post XpressPost and Light Packet and Small Packet etc.

 

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The next most likely course of action is that Canada Post locks out its union. This will probably happen next week as mail volumes dry up rapidly.

 

However, it is a battle for public opinion. Union in is a legal position to strike, but does not want to make the first move. Canada Post losing more money by the day, but does not want to make the first move.

 

This could go on longer than one would think, so Ebay should not have made their decision to remove Canada Post shipping options, before they had all the information.

 

I would hope the it is reinstated and as quickly as it was removed. But being Friday, (a long weekend in USA) they may not be in today.

 

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@lotsa.luck wrote:

 

 

This could go on longer than one would think, so Ebay should not have made their decision to remove Canada Post shipping options, before they had all the information.

 

 

 


I think they did the right thing (but they should've given more warning; they stopped suddenly).

 

Like you said, the situation is too volatile, and there is a lot of uncertainty. 

 

One wouldn't like to risk getting labels and ship orders, only to be stuck in limbo for who knows how long.

 

Having said that, I would like eBay to offer more saving options, with non traditional shipping partners, to show some deegre of appreciation to Canadian sellers (one could only dream...). 

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@lotsa.luck wrote:

The next most likely course of action is that Canada Post locks out its union. This will probably happen next week as mail volumes dry up rapidly.

 

However, it is a battle for public opinion. Union in is a legal position to strike, but does not want to make the first move. Canada Post losing more money by the day, but does not want to make the first move.

 

This could go on longer than one would think, so Ebay should not have made their decision to remove Canada Post shipping options, before they had all the information.

 

I would hope the it is reinstated and as quickly as it was removed. But being Friday, (a long weekend in USA) they may not be in today.

 


devon@ebay 

@lotsa.luck 

It appears eBay was premature in turning off CP options for sellers to ship but is still letting buyers pay using CP options. Using UPS is approx 2 times more expensive and Fedex is 3 times more. CP is STILL in a business as usual position. Only difference is employees are refusing to work overtime.

 

Can we get CP turned on so Canadian sellers can continue selling at their discretion please?

 

-Lotzofuniquegoodies

 

Posted 9 hours ago as of this writing

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-canada-post-workers-to-refuse-overtime-work-as-cont...

Canada Post workers stay on job, refuse overtime as contract talks fall short

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devon@ebay 

@lotsa.luck

 

We can't run a business if we can't purchase shipping labels. Please address this as soon as possible. Canada Post is still open, but we will not reopen our eBay store until the shipping labels are reactivated.

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@ecgt wrote:

devon@ebay 

@lotsa.luck

 

We can't run a business if we can't purchase shipping labels. Please address this as soon as possible. Canada Post is still open, but we will not reopen our eBay store until the shipping labels are reactivated.


devon@ebay 

 

If we do have no choice but to start cancelling orders we need a 4th reason to do so. The current 3 are NOT applicable

 

4. Mutually agreed upon cancellation. - No fault to either party.

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@lotzofuniquegoodies wrote:

@lotsa.luck wrote:

The next most likely course of action is that Canada Post locks out its union. This will probably happen next week as mail volumes dry up rapidly.

 

However, it is a battle for public opinion. Union in is a legal position to strike, but does not want to make the first move. Canada Post losing more money by the day, but does not want to make the first move.

 

This could go on longer than one would think, so Ebay should not have made their decision to remove Canada Post shipping options, before they had all the information.

 

I would hope the it is reinstated and as quickly as it was removed. But being Friday, (a long weekend in USA) they may not be in today.

 


devon@ebay 

@lotsa.luck 

It appears eBay was premature in turning off CP options for sellers to ship but is still letting buyers pay using CP options. Using UPS is approx 2 times more expensive and Fedex is 3 times more. CP is STILL in a business as usual position. Only difference is employees are refusing to work overtime.

 

Can we get CP turned on so Canadian sellers can continue selling at their discretion please?

 

-Lotzofuniquegoodies

 

Posted 9 hours ago as of this writing

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-canada-post-workers-to-refuse-overtime-work-as-cont...

Canada Post workers stay on job, refuse overtime as contract talks fall short


Hi @lotzofuniquegoodies! The Shipping team is aware of the latest change and are looking into all the possible adjustments. In the mean time we still encourage sellers to look into other shipping carriers for shipping label needs. 

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Rock and a hard place for eBay.  Allow CP as an option until the strike starts and they catch holy heck for the parcels stuck in limbo in processing plants.  Do what they did and catch heck for suspending CP.  I actually am on eBay's side for this decision, after a previous 1 month strike, a strike announcement and basically no negotiating going on it did not look good.

 

As it is, who know when the union will switch to full strike mode.   Canada Post labels can be printed elsewhere, eBay labels is not the only option.  The price may not be as good but it will not be double.

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@byto253 wrote:

Rock and a hard place for eBay.  Allow CP as an option until the strike starts and they catch holy heck for the parcels stuck in limbo in processing plants.  Do what they did and catch heck for suspending CP.  I actually am on eBay's side for this decision, after a previous 1 month strike, a strike announcement and basically no negotiating going on it did not look good.

 

As it is, who know when the union will switch to full strike mode.   Canada Post labels can be printed elsewhere, eBay labels is not the only option.  The price may not be as good but it will not be double.


@byto253 

devon@ebay 

 

The side issue would be if the customer paid for expedited lite in Canada. That is not available elsewhere. Bumping up to Expedited is often double. 

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devon@ebay wrote:

@lotzofuniquegoodies wrote:

@lotsa.luck wrote:

The next most likely course of action is that Canada Post locks out its union. This will probably happen next week as mail volumes dry up rapidly.

 

However, it is a battle for public opinion. Union in is a legal position to strike, but does not want to make the first move. Canada Post losing more money by the day, but does not want to make the first move.

 

This could go on longer than one would think, so Ebay should not have made their decision to remove Canada Post shipping options, before they had all the information.

 

I would hope the it is reinstated and as quickly as it was removed. But being Friday, (a long weekend in USA) they may not be in today.

 


devon@ebay 

@lotsa.luck 

It appears eBay was premature in turning off CP options for sellers to ship but is still letting buyers pay using CP options. Using UPS is approx 2 times more expensive and Fedex is 3 times more. CP is STILL in a business as usual position. Only difference is employees are refusing to work overtime.

 

Can we get CP turned on so Canadian sellers can continue selling at their discretion please?

 

-Lotzofuniquegoodies

 

Posted 9 hours ago as of this writing

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-canada-post-workers-to-refuse-overtime-work-as-cont...

Canada Post workers stay on job, refuse overtime as contract talks fall short


Hi @lotzofuniquegoodies! The Shipping team is aware of the latest change and are looking into all the possible adjustments. In the mean time we still encourage sellers to look into other shipping carriers for shipping label needs. 


devon@ebay 

As mentioned in other posts UPS is double. Fedex is triple. That is not what buyers are requesting or paid for as a service and sellers are unable to eat the difference. I have 2 shipments in limbo due to this kerfuffle. Other sellers may have many more. Plus the potential issue with mega customs clearance fees being charged to buyer on back in which CP/USPS DO NOT charge. Majority of Canada is limited to CP being the ONLY available option. We just don't have the population density to warrant other carriers/couriers. 

 

PS. In attempting to reach out to current buyers to make alternate arrangements emails are going unanswered and phone number on file is not in service. From other sellers hearing similar stories.  See post 11 for additional concerns to this issue. 

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@ecgt 

 

You can purchase shipping through Canada Post directly.

Do you have a Solutions for Small Business account with them?

While the discounts are not as generous as those negotiated by eBay, they do exist.

And you can still ship with stamps on the package, adding a label at the PO counter.

 

https://sso-osu.canadapost-postescanada.ca/pfe-pap/en/registration/business?sourceApp=SMB&sourceUrl=...

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Canadians want to support Canada whenever possible.

 

Canada Post is open. Maybe not for long, but they are accepting packages. Canadians should be able to choose a Canadian shipping option.

 

The assumption that this labour war will play out just like the last one is presumptuous and naive. 

 

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