HTS and CoO Required on ALL Packages

HTS codes and Country of Origin are now required on all packages entering the USA. Many packages are still not clearing because the HTS or CoO are not in the manifest. This effectively means that the de minimis is gone, but no tariffs or taxes are assigned to the shipment unless China or Hong Kong are the CoO. Chit Chats will no longer accept items where China or Hong Kong are the CoO.

Has eBay sent anything out? Seller protections or any announcements? I don’t think they have updated their labels to include the longer form declaration.

This does likely mean that the infrastructure is being put in place to apply tariffs in the future to Canadian shipments.
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@wilsonharborsales wrote:
HTS codes and Country of Origin are now required on all packages entering the USA. Many packages are still not clearing because the HTS or CoO are not in the manifest. This effectively means that the de minimis is gone, but no tariffs or taxes are assigned to the shipment unless China or Hong Kong are the CoO. Chit Chats will no longer accept items where China or Hong Kong are the CoO.

Has eBay sent anything out? Seller protections or any announcements? I don’t think they have updated their labels to include the longer form declaration.

This does likely mean that the infrastructure is being put in place to apply tariffs in the future to Canadian shipments.

I shipped one item on Monday that still hasn't cleared customs yet because there was no COO or HS code. It wasn't an option when I shipped, had I waited a few days that might have been resolved since I can add that to my shipments on Stallion Express now.

 

I'm hoping they will modfy the web forms so you can't proceed without this info, if it's voluntary it's too easy to forget and continue shipping without providing it.

 

My one item that's stuck is a Canadian token, so I'm not worried it will clear, the customer is not complaining yet, I hope it clears really soon so it can get to them.

 

C.

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@wilsonharborsales wrote:
HTS codes and Country of Origin are now required on all packages entering the USA. Many packages are still not clearing because the HTS or CoO are not in the manifest. This effectively means that the de minimis is gone, but no tariffs or taxes are assigned to the shipment unless China or Hong Kong are the CoO. Chit Chats will no longer accept items where China or Hong Kong are the CoO.

Has eBay sent anything out? Seller protections or any announcements? I don’t think they have updated their labels to include the longer form declaration.

This does likely mean that the infrastructure is being put in place to apply tariffs in the future to Canadian shipments.

eBay's labels support country of origin and HS / HTS codes. In fact, they support the full 10 digit code (which you should probably use until we hear otherwise).

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So this means dear old grandma or grandpa are  going to have to put HTS and CoO codes on the toy they are sending their grandson in Florida or Michigan?   They won't even know what they are.   And little Billy will get smacked with tariffs on this birthday present from his grandparents?

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Currently this also applies to lettermail. Not sure how that is going to work.
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@wilsonharborsales wrote:
Currently this also applies to lettermail. Not sure how that is going to work.

How does a letter sent from Canada have a country of origin? On Stallion's platform they ask for country of origin even for letters, I'm shipping stamps and banknotes, so that field is applicable. When I send photos and correspondence to my penpals in the US, there really is no country of origin, except it was written in Canada.

 

Generally with letters that don't contain goods, I just put a stamp on it and mail it.

 

C.

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Please correct me if I'm wrong.

My understanding is that the export/import rules are for merchandise.

Gifts have always been excluded and will continue top be at least for little Billy's sake I hope... all little billy's need a snare drum from Granny for Christmas. 🥁 😉

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letter mail?   How on earth are you supposed to put codes on lettermail?  So even dear old grandma's from around the world are going to need to put HTS and CoO codes on the birthday cards they send little Billy in the US?    How on earth is the USPS supposed to check and tariff every single piece of letter mail entering the USA?

 

What kind of stupidty is this.

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It doesn’t make sense, but it is what they are pushing. The rules will probably change again soon.

https://chitchats.com/blog/president-trumps-tariffs-on-canada-and-e-commerce
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@wilsonharborsales 

Hi.    As far as I know your query to Devon (below) remains the status quo. Hypothetically, 

 

If eBay Canada sellers are subject to a

 

1. zero de minimus,

2. a 25% USA tariff on top of item pricing,

3. delivery competition with the US sellers getting USPS & ISP rates,

 

Are there going to be enough domestic and remaining international sales to even support an eBay Canada platform? 

I really hope so but someone needs to do the math.

 

02-05 Status quo.JPG

 

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Thank you for that! Us eBay label folks aren't seeing that stuff.

Pretty volatile situation. Without diving into politics a Republican voted today to impeach . Unfortunately he seems to be acting alone. 

If ebay doesn't say something positive, or at least offer a bit of clarity, It wouldn't surprise me to see F bk Mrkt Place make a domestic move...

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@sin-n-dex wrote:

@wilsonharborsales wrote:
Currently this also applies to lettermail. Not sure how that is going to work.

How does a letter sent from Canada have a country of origin? On Stallion's platform they ask for country of origin even for letters, I'm shipping stamps and banknotes, so that field is applicable. When I send photos and correspondence to my penpals in the US, there really is no country of origin, except it was written in Canada.

 

Generally with letters that don't contain goods, I just put a stamp on it and mail it.

 

C.



They plan on using the DNA from the stamp and AI to connect it with Ancestrydotcom.

Then a CBP officer traces it 3 generations up to the sender's current address...

👨‍👩‍👧👩‍👩‍👦‍👦🕺 🤔

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A lot of people don't know this but there is a distinct difference between HS Codes (Harmonized System Codes) and HTS Codes (Harmonized Tariff Schedule Codes). The former is a 6-digit number that is standardized amongst pretty much all countries to identify a product. The latter is a system unique to the United States that is longer than 6 digits (often 10 digits) that has the same first 6 digits, but then adds additional digits to further classify the item into even more distinct categories that match up with the tariff/duty schedule for the States.

 

So when sending things to the States it's always a good idea to use the HTS Code (longer than 6 digits); elsewhere in the world the HS Code is fine.

 

Utilizing ChatGPT (or your AI of choice) makes it very easy to determine the proper code to add to your label.

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Am I missing something, or does eBay labels only support 6 digit codes?

 

For example, for an music CD I belive that 8523.80 is the HS code and 8523.80.1000 is the HTS code. 

 

eBay Labels has a box for a 6 digit HS Tariff code.

 

It gives me the following error if I try to put in an HTS code: 

The HS tariff code must have at least 6 digits and follow this format: 1234.56

 

Am I missing something, or is there a way to use the 10 digit code with eBay labels?

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@ilikehockeyjerseys wrote:

Am I missing something, or does eBay labels only support 6 digit codes?

 

For example, for an music CD I belive that 8523.80 is the HS code and 8523.80.1000 is the HTS code. 

 

eBay Labels has a box for a 6 digit HS Tariff code.

 

It gives me the following error if I try to put in an HTS code: 

The HS tariff code must have at least 6 digits and follow this format: 1234.56

 

Am I missing something, or is there a way to use the 10 digit code with eBay labels?


You need another decimal place. It should be xxxx.xx.xx.xx

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Thanks for the help. That worked. 

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For anyone looking for HS Codes -

Canada Post has the mother of all HS Code finders:

 

https://www.canadapost-postescanada.ca/information/app/wtz/entreprise/trouvercodesh?execution=e1s1

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I fill out Canada Posts online form and type in all the info on their customs form and print it off for the Post office to scan (it's either photographs or graded comic books).  I never print my shipping labels thru eBay. 

There is nothing on their form about HTS codes or CoO (although the addresses are typed out).

 

I'm assuming customs adds the HTS code to package when it goes through US customs?

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@silverpinups wrote:

I fill out Canada Posts online form and type in all the info on their customs form and print it off for the Post office to scan (it's either photographs or graded comic books).  I never print my shipping labels thru eBay. 

There is nothing on their form about HTS codes or CoO (although the addresses are typed out).

 

I'm assuming customs adds the HTS code to package when it goes through US customs?


They do not, no.

 

This is a deficiency in Canada Post's system that is going to need to be corrected sooner rather than later.

I would highly recommend giving the clerk the Country of Origin and HS Code when they're processing the transaction so they can manually enter it onto the customs declaration.

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Thanks for your reply....

 

Country of Origin. Do you mean Shipping from or where to item was produced? Where do I find the HTS code for comics and vintage photographs?

 

Sorry I'm getting to old for these constant changes.... 

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