05-21-2025 09:15 AM
First off is the Union statement
On Monday, May 19, CUPW issued a 72-hour strike notice to Canada Post. This action was not taken lightly, but it was done for several reasons.
The collective agreements for the Urban Postal Operations and the Rural and Suburban Mail Carriers bargaining units, which were extended by the Government in December 2024, are set to expire Friday, May 23 at midnight.
CUPW negotiators met with Canada Post over several days at the end of April and early May, with the goal of resolving our bargaining dispute and achieving new collective agreements for both bargaining units.
Last week, Canada Post walked away from the bargaining table for the third time, telling the Union it would return with new comprehensive offers. A week has passed. With the expiry of our collective agreements drawing closer by the day, we are still waiting. The clock is ticking, and so far, Canada Post has yet to deliver.
The day after Canada Post walked away and paused bargaining, it fired another shot, by threatening to unilaterally change your working conditions and suspend employee benefits if new agreements aren’t reached. This aggressive move undermines good faith bargaining and the stability of our public postal service. It had to be met with strong resistance. Postal workers won’t be threatened or coerced into accepting offers that will gut our collective agreements and undermine good, stable jobs.
Our right to strike was taken away from us and put on “a time out” by former Minister of Labour Steven MacKinnon’s orders and the Canada Industrial Relations Board in December 2024. By issuing this notice, we are simply announcing our intention to continue our legal strike that was put on pause by the CIRB.
Although we have served notices, there is still time for negotiations to take place. We remain committed to achieving negotiated collective agreements. Your National Executive Board and Negotiating Committees urge Canada Post to return to the bargaining table with real offers that protect the health and well-being of postal workers, support the communities we serve, and ensure a strong and sustainable public postal service for all.
In solidarity,
06-19-2025 11:07 AM - edited 06-19-2025 11:07 AM
@flipistics wrote:All of that seems incredibly reasonable.
Of course the employer is going to make their proposal sound as reasonable as possible. They’re not going to post the concessions they’d like the union to make.
The use of “Did you know?” by Canada Post to make some of their points sounds a tad paternalistic and condescending, in my humble.
06-19-2025 06:55 PM
In its efforts to convince postal workers to accept its so called “best and final offer”, Canada Post claims to have dropped many of its original proposals for rollbacks. It says it no longer has plans to put all new employees on defined contribution pensions. It says its proposals will not end route ownership for letter carriers and RSMCs. It says it is not attacking job security. It even says it is no longer demanding higher premiums for retiree benefits.
What it does not say is that it has plans to bring every one of these rollbacks back to the negotiating table.
In its submission to the Industrial Inquiry Commission (IIC) under William Kaplan,
CPC publicly stated that in upcoming negotiations, it plans to introduce new rollbacks for all CUPW members, bring back what it dropped in 2025 and adding new ones.
See pages 48 and 49 of the Canada Post Submission at: https://infopost.ca/wp-c/u/2025/02/iic_cpc_feb14-e.pdf.
In terms of wages and benefits, the document says CPC wants to “align the productive hourly rates payable to employees in the CUPW bargaining units with those of Canada Post’s key unionized competitors.” According to CPC’s calculations, this would mean cutting the labour costs of a 15-year CUPW Group 1 worker by either 31.5% (compared to Purolator), or 27.1% (DHL) or 29.2% (UPS).
There is no doubt that the current attack on postal workers is only the beginning.
CPC is stating publicly, for everyone to see, that it plans to attack the full-time jobs, pensions, benefits, pay, job security, vacation leave, night workers leave and virtually everything CUPW has achieved through decades of struggle.
Your vote on the so-called “best and final” offer is an opportunity to send the Employer a message. CPC will interpret any yes votes as a green light to implement its stated plans. But you have the option to send CPC a very clear message that you are not going to accept the elimination of your rights, benefits and security. We have the opportunity to stand together and tell CPC – “NO”.
In solidarity
06-20-2025 05:07 AM - edited 06-20-2025 05:11 AM
@skylarstuff wrote:10 Reasons to Vote NO on Canada Post’s Final Offers!
- CPC’s 6% wage offer is not enough. Our COLA paid out almost 5% at the end of the last collective agreements. This means CPC’s offer of 6% for Year 1 is actually an offer of about 1%. For many of us, that a raise of just $0.34/hour.
- CPC’s offer does nothing to provide more full-time job opportunities for Group 1 employees.
- CPC’s Offer does not address the need for corporate vehicles for RSMCs. This is especially a problem for RSMCs in suburban areas whose mileage payments are not sufficient to compensate for their vehicle expenses.
- CPC wants new hires to have to work 6 months as a regular employee without pensionable service.
- CPC’s Short-Term Disability Plan proposal falls short. We need Canada Life to step out of the process, so our members can focus on their health and healing, not another form or medical certificate.
- “Load levelling” would erode seniority rights and give far too much power to supervisors to reassign work, opening us up to the risks of favouritism, bullying and harassment. Load levelling is also about eliminating overtime.
- CPC’s proposed “Dynamic Routing” model is another attack on our seniority rights. It would mean the end of route ownership and introduce heavier workloads – every day.
- Part-time positions would explode. Canada Post wants to create two new types of part-time worker in Group 2 for both weekend and weekday work.
- CPC’s “solutions” to Separate Sort from Delivery (SSD) don’t go far enough Canada Post needs to prioritize the work-life balance of its employees, not just the operational needs of its network.
- CPC’s offer does nothing to improve protections against contracting out – and the Employer thinks it can contract out parcel delivery under the current Urban agreement.
Sorry if I'm not getting it, I just wanted clarification on why the above points are "bad"? I do agree that point 1-5 should be something the workers and union should fight for, but 6-10?
6. The Load Leveling, why is eliminiating overtime a bad thing? (aside from the fact that regular employees cannot work more OT to supplement income?)
7. Why is dynamic routing a bad thing? It promotes efficiency so that more mail and parcels can be delivered during a given time period. Yes, workload will probably increase overall, but isn't it the same for many other workers for other industry? You wouldn't see multiple fast food worker waiting at the till if there are no customers lining up, they get reassigned to other tasks like cleaning the table, food prep etc, no? I actually thought it's kinda "unfair" that posties get to go home early and still get paid the same amount if they finished their assigned workload early. I don't get to go home early when I finish my work, so I will go help out my colleagues who got with heavier workload. Likewise when I'm drowning in my own work, my colleagues who are available will help me.
8. Why is part timers exploding a "problem"? It helps decrease overtime, no? My workplace heavily relies on overtime because there simply aren't enough skilled workers. People are retiring at a higher rate than people entering the workforce. I think reducing overtime will help decrease risk of burnout and fatigue and errors happening. I wish more part timers can enter my profession's workforce too but there literally is a shortage everywhere.
9. I don't understand this point. How exactly does the SSD affect the work life balance of the posties? Canada Post as a business should be focus on operational needs of the network, no?
10. What's wrong with contracting out for urban parcel deliveries?
Thanks in advance!
06-20-2025 05:57 PM
Canada Post Message
As we’ve shared before, our preference has always been to reach agreements with CUPW and have it proceed to an employee ratification vote. After a year and a half of discussions, the assistance of established mediators, four global offers and an Industrial Inquiry Commission hearing and report, the parties unfortunately remain at a major impasse.
Another path to a resolution vote in the Canada Labour Code is for the Minister of Jobs and Families to direct that a vote be held on the employer’s latest offer, when they believe that it’s in the public interest for employees to be given that opportunity.
We requested a vote from the Minister because it was clear that there was no path to resolution through further negotiations. This allows employees to vote and decide whether to accept or reject an agreement. It gives employees the opportunity to have a voice, especially as we begin to implement needed changes.
What it means for you
As a CUPW-represented employee, you will now have the opportunity to vote on the offer that applies to you (CUPW-Urban or CUPW-RSMC). If approved, the offer would become your new collective agreement.
Why change our delivery model?
To be competitive in the parcel delivery market, we must evolve our delivery model. Our current approach is no longer suited to the demands of today’s customers, and is not aligned with where the market is headed. If we’re serious about reclaiming our position as Canada’s leading parcel delivery company, we need to act now.
Declining parcel volumes over the past few years have made this challenge even more urgent. You’ve seen this reality firsthand, and it was a key point during recent negotiations.
We’ve proposed phased, gradual changes designed to help us rebuild and grow our parcel business. This is not just essential to improving our service offering, it is essential to sustain the improvements we’ve made – such as wage increases and signing bonuses – and to safeguard the benefits, job security, and pensions included in our offers.
As outlined in our full offers to CUPW, our goal is to preserve a national public service, protect jobs, and responsibly adapt to the evolving landscape.
What to expect
The Minister’s directive sets clear expectations for both parties during the vote. Both parties shall cooperate to establish the voting list, make information on the offers available to eligible voters and participate in “any manner the CIRB deems necessary to facilitate the conduct of the votes.”
We will continue to provide clear and factual information on the offers to help you understand their contents, and how it would impact you if ratified through a vote.
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We’re working to provide employees with the information they need to make an informed choice when they vote.
06-20-2025 07:17 PM
Today, June 20th, 2025, we had our first meeting with the Canadian Industrial Relations Board (CIRB) to discuss details of the upcoming government-imposed vote on Canada Post’s May 28th, 2025 final offers for both postal bargaining units. The meeting was virtual and hosted by the CIRB and lasted about one and a half hours.
This meeting was scheduled for preliminary discussions to address some aspects of the process regarding the way the vote would be conducted. The subject identified by the CIRB to be on the agenda were as follows:
No decisions were made by the CIRB at this meeting nor did the Union commit to any parameters. The goal was to hear the parties’ perspectives on these issues. The CIRB will issue a summary of these discussions in writing at the beginning of next week and the parties will have further opportunity to comment or respond to these concerns in writing.
The CIRB stated that this vote would be an electronic one and that there would be a phone-in option for those who cannot or prefer not to vote online. The Board also expressed that they were contemplating distributing material via emails to the majority of our members.
Section 108.1 (4) of the Canada Labour Code states:
- “The Board or other person or body in charge of conducting the vote shall determine any question that arises under this section, including any question relating to the conduct of the vote or the determination of its result.”
During the meeting, the Union raised concerns, for example about the distribution of the materials such as the PIN and the Employer’s Offers for those who don’t have internet access or a known email address. We also raised issues and discrepancies about the list of employees provided by Canada Post.
The Union, by an initial verification of the list has been able to identify a number of Members that seem to be missing from the list and a number of people that should no longer be on the list.
At this time, no dates have been decided for when the vote will take place.
Further information will be provided as the situation evolves. We will communicate any decisions made by the CIRB and useful details in the near future.
Our national overtime ban remains in effect during this process.
In solidarity,
06-20-2025 09:23 PM - edited 06-20-2025 09:26 PM
@zee-chan-jpn-books wrote:Sorry if I'm not getting it, I just wanted clarification on why the above points are "bad"? I do agree that point 1-5 should be something the workers and union should fight for, but 6-10?
6. The Load Leveling, why is eliminiating overtime a bad thing? (aside from the fact that regular employees cannot work more OT to supplement income?)
For letter carriers, overtime is a perk. They don't want to lose it. They like working overtime because they get more money (I can't recall if it's time and a half, or double time, but they get more). And the thing is, if they can finish their 8-hour route in (for example) 6 hours, they still get paid for 8. And then they can come back to the depot and work "overtime" hours to fill out the rest of their 8 hour day - essentially being paid 8 hours regular time + 2 hours overtime for an 8 hour day.
7. Why is dynamic routing a bad thing? It promotes efficiency so that more mail and parcels can be delivered during a given time period. Yes, workload will probably increase overall, but isn't it the same for many other workers for other industry? You wouldn't see multiple fast food worker waiting at the till if there are no customers lining up, they get reassigned to other tasks like cleaning the table, food prep etc, no? I actually thought it's kinda "unfair" that posties get to go home early and still get paid the same amount if they finished their assigned workload early. I don't get to go home early when I finish my work, so I will go help out my colleagues who got with heavier workload. Likewise when I'm drowning in my own work, my colleagues who are available will help me.
Simply put: they don't want the way things currently work to change. Right now you have a desginated route that is the same route every day so you get familiar with it. That familiarity can help you become more efficient and can also help you finish faster the longer you do the route. With dynamic routing your route will still be in the same area, but the length and points of call may slightly change day-to-day based on volume. The whole point of dynamic routing is to maximize efficiency so it's less likely that a carrier is coming back to the depot early (obviously the carriers don't like this). They are also concerned that, at the moment, there is no clear explanation regarding how this will be implemented because it's all new to Canada Post. They don't trust any software that might exist to calculate dynamic routes. And they also think that supervisors at the depots will use favoritism to give more work to carriers they may not like.
8. Why is part timers exploding a "problem"? It helps decrease overtime, no? My workplace heavily relies on overtime because there simply aren't enough skilled workers. People are retiring at a higher rate than people entering the workforce. I think reducing overtime will help decrease risk of burnout and fatigue and errors happening. I wish more part timers can enter my profession's workforce too but there literally is a shortage everywhere.
Again, for the letter carriers, anything that decreases overtime is bad. They're also concerned that Canada Post will just start hiring all part time workers, which will take away full-time jobs. They don't like the benefit structure that has been proposed for part time workers. They also vehemently despise the idea of part-time flex workers that Canada Post wants to bring on (mainly for weekend parcel delivery) because they don't want to see Canada Post become "gigified" like Amazon or whatever.
9. I don't understand this point. How exactly does the SSD affect the work life balance of the posties? Canada Post as a business should be focus on operational needs of the network, no?
This is a more complicated situation that has to do with a specific way mail is sorted for letter carriers before they even arrive at the depot each day. This new "SSD" method has been slowly implemented nationwide over the past few years and most letter carriers hate it for various reasons, although Canada Post claims that it increases efficiency. Again, the main sticking point here is that SSD changed the way they used to sort and process the mail, and since the letter carriers didn't like that change they complained to the union and the union is trying to fight on their behalf to change how SSD is implemented to better favor the letter carrier. Not being a letter carrier myself, I can't speak on this point in depth as I don't know the intracacies of why it's hated so much.
10. What's wrong with contracting out for urban parcel deliveries?
Letter carriers are against anything that even remotely relates to anyone not employed by Canada Post taking away jobs or work hours from Canada Post employees. They want all work to be done by Canada Post employees, and preferably full-time Canada Post employees.
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Disclaimer: I am neither a letter carrier nor an employee of Canada Post (although I do represent them as a retail clerk). My opinions tend to lean more towards favoring the corporation than the union as I feel like the union is way too out of touch on many things.
06-20-2025 11:29 PM
@reallynicestamps wrote:I've never had a job with easy days.
Does your job have you on your feet dealing with the public all day?
Does your job have you carrying 25kg sacks of paper outdoors in any weather?
Does your workplace look like this?
Most of the CUPW workers are doing physical labour which wears the body down.
Ask a carpenter or an electrician if he thinks he can work at the same pace past 50 or even 40. My SIL and my nephew who have those professions are moving away from the physical parts of their work as much as possible and into contracting and supervising.
Calgary has had community mail boxes for going on 10 years. I believe most of AB as well. Unsure where they left off for rest of Canada. According to my driver he has 40 stops to make on his shift. He box is probably 2 mins drive max in his heated/ a/c van. A box might take 10 mins to handle. From passenger side to box is maybe 4 feet so not really much heavy lifting.
06-21-2025 03:25 AM - edited 06-21-2025 03:31 AM
@dinomitesales wrote:Disclaimer: I am neither a letter carrier nor an employee of Canada Post (although I do represent them as a retail clerk). My opinions tend to lean more towards favoring the corporation than the union as I feel like the union is way too out of touch on many things.
I thought your analysis was pretty fair-handed. As far as the union's perspective when it comes to bargaining goes, remember that the union's job is first and foremost to protect and support the well-being of its members, not to support the race to the bottom in which many of its competitors are involved.
06-22-2025 01:54 AM
06-22-2025 07:53 PM
So when in doubt, check with AI. Here is what it had to say.
Based on current signals and recent labor history:
This is close to a toss-up, with a slight lean toward rejection — but worker sentiment is more divided than leadership’s hardline stance.
Strike fatigue: After last year's 32-day rotating strike, many workers may not want to go through it again — especially if the gains are modest.
Financial pressure: Inflation and cost-of-living concerns might make even a modest raise feel “good enough” for some.
Risk aversion: Some may fear losing public support or facing government-imposed back-to-work legislation.
Split sentiment: Not all postal workers are militant — urban vs rural, new vs long-tenured workers often have different priorities.
Offer seen as weak: A ~3% annual raise (spread over years) doesn't beat inflation or match other public sector settlements.
No union endorsement: CUPW hasn't recommended a "yes" vote — that influences many members.
Overtime ban = momentum: It's already in place, showing workers are willing to act.
Expectation of more: If they believe a better deal is possible, rejection is more likely.
CUPW is a democratic union, so workers get a direct vote.
Worker turnout and mood vary greatly by region and job type.
In past disputes (like 2011 or 2016), similar final offers were rejected before further pressure led to better deals.
While leadership is likely to oppose the offer, worker acceptance remains possible but not probable — especially if they feel empowered by current public or media sentiment.
06-24-2025 12:20 AM
Canada Post says its wage offer provides for a pay increase of 6% in the first year followed by increases of 3%, 2% and 2% in subsequent years. CUPW says CPC’s offer for the first year does not come close to being a pay increase of 6%.
Who is telling the truth?
(Using the maximum pay rate for postal clerks and letter carriers)
Canada Post has been exaggerating the actual amount of pay increase it is offering to RSMCs and to Urban workers for year one.
Converting COLA payments into regular wages will result in a slight increase in some benefit costs for CPC. For example, COLA payments are not pensionable. But this increase will not result in CPC’s costs increasing anything like the 6% it is claiming.
If, for any reason, you shake hands with someone from CPC management who works on finances – remember to count your fingers afterwards.
Send Canada Post a very clear message that you are not going to accept the elimination of your rights, benefits and security.
Let’s Stand Together for Our Future and VOTE NO!
In Solidarity,
06-24-2025 02:19 PM
@skylarstuff wrote:
Let’s Stand Together for Our Future and VOTE NO!
In Solidarity,
Jan SimpsonNational President
Yeah, let them vote NO and go the way of the Dodo bird. 🙄🤦🤦🤦