
04-24-2025 09:44 AM
A buyer in us bought a vintage record. The jacket is made in usa, but the disc is made in canada. Many vintage records sold in us and canada produced like this. My questions are,
1. How tariff will affect on this item?
2. How to input HS tariff code on this?
; I did look up the code, and it's "Phonograph records - 8523.80.10.00" whether the country of origin is canada or us. Do I need to input 2 items in custom form?
- Item description: record jacket, Quantity:1, Value (CAD):25, Weight: 100g. HS tariff code: 8523.80, Country of origin: USA
- Item description: vinyl record, Quantity:1, Value (CAD):25, Weight: 100g. HS tariff code: 8523.80, Country of origin: canada
* value and weight is divided from total weight and price.
Thanks in advance.
Solved! Go to Solution.
04-24-2025 01:28 PM
@mrdutch1001 wrote:Unless the record has a value over $800 nothing to worry about regarding tariffs. As a vinyl seller myself, I don't recall ever having a jacket made in one country and the vinyl made in another. Are you the original owner of this record? as otherwise I might be thinking this is a mis-match(wherein someone has switched up one or the other for whatever the reason)
It is my understanding that one has to input only the information as it pertains to that 1 single item, otherwise it may appear that you are shipping 2 items.
In the 1980's and 1990's the vast majority of LP covers used by indie labels in the US were printed by Ross-Ellis in Montreal with the discs made locally (US or Canada). They usually state Printed in Canada on the jackets, the discs themselves usually say Made In USA. I got out of the business in 2001, my guess is that they continued to be the leading printer at least until the Canada Dollar zoomed to $1.10 vs the US Dollar.
On the reverse, many of the Canadian Major labels imported US covers from their US HQ and then pressed the records in Canada so it's very common to see this dual country thing.
It really doesn't mattter which country you use, I would just go by the markings on the jackets, there is no need to complicate matters with two different country of origin declarations. As mentioned by @mrdutch1001 they both qualify for the US$800 de minimus exemption under CUSMA.
04-24-2025 10:35 AM - edited 04-24-2025 10:37 AM
Unless the record has a value over $800 nothing to worry about regarding tariffs. As a vinyl seller myself, I don't recall ever having a jacket made in one country and the vinyl made in another. Are you the original owner of this record? as otherwise I might be thinking this is a mis-match(wherein someone has switched up one or the other for whatever the reason)
It is my understanding that one has to input only the information as it pertains to that 1 single item, otherwise it may appear that you are shipping 2 items.
04-24-2025 01:06 PM
otherwise I might be thinking this is a mis-match
When I worked in Smiths Falls right after university, there was still an LP factory active.
They made only the records.
It's also not unusual for paperback covers to be printed in the USA and shipped to Canada where the (heavier) part of the book is printed.
Mostly speculation on my part- I was there to run the Youth Employment Centre for Manpower Canada.
04-24-2025 01:14 PM
Thanks for your input and useful info about there being separate publication processes...
04-24-2025 01:28 PM
@mrdutch1001 wrote:Unless the record has a value over $800 nothing to worry about regarding tariffs. As a vinyl seller myself, I don't recall ever having a jacket made in one country and the vinyl made in another. Are you the original owner of this record? as otherwise I might be thinking this is a mis-match(wherein someone has switched up one or the other for whatever the reason)
It is my understanding that one has to input only the information as it pertains to that 1 single item, otherwise it may appear that you are shipping 2 items.
In the 1980's and 1990's the vast majority of LP covers used by indie labels in the US were printed by Ross-Ellis in Montreal with the discs made locally (US or Canada). They usually state Printed in Canada on the jackets, the discs themselves usually say Made In USA. I got out of the business in 2001, my guess is that they continued to be the leading printer at least until the Canada Dollar zoomed to $1.10 vs the US Dollar.
On the reverse, many of the Canadian Major labels imported US covers from their US HQ and then pressed the records in Canada so it's very common to see this dual country thing.
It really doesn't mattter which country you use, I would just go by the markings on the jackets, there is no need to complicate matters with two different country of origin declarations. As mentioned by @mrdutch1001 they both qualify for the US$800 de minimus exemption under CUSMA.
04-24-2025 01:34 PM
I'm not a record seller but I can say that filling the COO is strengthening my understanding of country origins, I've had to look up to confirm COO for stamps from: North Borneo, Saar, Bechuanaland, Southern Rhodesia etc etc etc to figure out/confirm what countries they are now. Most I know but I've had some surprises too!
04-24-2025 04:09 PM
@mrdutch1001 wrote:Thanks for your input and useful info about there being separate publication processes...
Just out of curiosity, I already mentioned that "Many vintage records sold in us and canada produced like this." Why this wan't enought to convince you?
04-24-2025 04:25 PM
Over 60 years of collecting vinyl and having had a collection of 2500+ LPs, never encountered that scenario.
Sorry to disappoint with my personal experience!
04-24-2025 06:16 PM
You must been collecting only bootleg records for 60 years. lol
04-24-2025 06:35 PM - edited 04-24-2025 06:36 PM
"You must been collecting only bootleg records">> "seems to me that is your dept....being that I never engaged in anything "bootleg"....
However, 99% of my very legitimate & valuable LP record collection was sold over 15 years ago when prices were extremely good compared to current timeframe ....
and most of the 200 remaining LPs in my collection are still factory sealed.
04-24-2025 11:55 PM
Do you remember ?
"Tribal drums in the jungles of Botswana
Bring back sweet memories of you
We were guerillas in the outback baby
And the skies were always blue."
Nancy White -Civil Service Songwriter.
04-25-2025 08:20 AM
@reallynicestamps Nope, but then again most days by suppertime I've forgotten what I had for breakfast....