Canada Post Possible Stike

[stanley613]

What happens now that orders are in the mail with a possible expected delivery date of September 30 and early October, what happens if not received there is no way of knowing whether these items will be received after strike is over.  Will eBay delay delivery date?

[marnotom!]

"I have no sympathy for CUPW. Negotiations are supposed to be just that give and take I’ve yet to see them give anything other than demand repeatedly. Canada Post however has at least moved on some issues.

"Until they actually decide to negotiate they can all pound sand as far as I’m concerned."

So you're at the bargaining table yourself as an observer? Tell us more about what Canada Post is offering.

[momcqueen]

Are you? Please sit back down.

[cumos55]

I have no association with Canada Post or with CUPW.

My background is agriculture specifically the Animal Sciences.... beef cattle

I sell books... Canadian history on eBay...  These books were my focus for the last 10 years.

and I have learned a lot about how Canada "works"... and I am following this strike closely and am learning a lot in the process.....

I sold a broad range of items on my first 5 years on eBay....  Been on eBay since 2003!

My understanding of  Canada has been derived from the books I sell

[cumos55]

My understanding of something is based on .... Systems Modeling .....  

and this has been applied to my understanding of this CUPW --- Canada Post situation

My  conclusion ... Rotating strikes  have created a mess for online sellers.

Now.... Who created the rotating strikes?  

[momcqueen]

Thank you for sharing that.

I think it brings value to the discussion to see where people are coming from in a heated debate with no end such as this. I’ve been very open and forthright with my own background and experience inside and outside of business on eBay and life in general, in particular the reason I feel compelled to shine a hard light on the impact the postal strike is having on the most vulnerable among us: small businesses and small online sellers, (people who are self-employed, stay-at-home parents, single parents, seniors, students etc) and also the elderly who may be relying on domestic lettermail to receive cheques and folks who live in remote and rural communities where couriers dare not venture.

Also, by self-declaring where we stand and from whence we came, it helps other users/readers/posters decide who among us is more credible and has the most to offer in terms of opinion and knowledge on the subject versus those who may merely be here to blow smoke, agitate and offer hyperbole.

Don’t you think?

[ricarmic]

I've said before that I think what's really wrong, whats really needed to fix it is something in between what we're seeing in the press.

Neither side has behaved well which worries me if that will continue despite legislation.

I do find it interesting if you see all the reactions and feelings amongst us here, generally they are widely different, virtually no two are the same.

I've even taken a few minutes to review the responses of folks to the news stories and on the CUPW corrupted website and there too are a lot of wildly different perspectives, thoughts and ideas.

I find myself thankful that I'm not on the negotiating team and that I left the large corporate world behind 10 years ago.

Of course like all the rest of us, I now have different things to worry about.....

[momcqueen]

Binding arbitration works wonders in other sectors. It will be the final stage here if negotiations fail if we are to assume back-to-work legislation is approved by the Senate tomorrow afternoon. 

I've seen it in action: binding arbitration as the end result in teacher contract negotiations. Those people are experts at cutting through all the chaff thrown at them to make a deal that's totally fair to both parties. I highly recommend it for essential services. 

[cumos55]

The Government  must be careful  with the back to work legislation.

The main consideration should not be the relationship between CUPW and Canada Post.

The legislation should address the prevention of collateral damage... and the effect on online sellers.... and buyers...

I get this focus from some of the comments by Government people  that have been quoted and published in newspapers.

The legislation must also state that negotiations between CUPW and Canada Post must continue...

Finally the Government must acknowledge the negative effect of how such a strike  affected online sellers.  It must be understood  that such a strike  must never happen again....

[momcqueen]

Also, I share your suspicions about how and where (and who) turned this pear-shaped and totally respect the varying opinions being offered. I do, however, try to avoid the Comment sections offered on news stories the same as I would walking into a barroom in the middle of the day to hear what the local drunks are arguing about. 

[momcqueen]

Ask and ye shall receive: Bill C-89 

Postal Services Resumption and Continuation Act An Act to provide for the resumption and continuation of postal services

https://openparliament.ca/bills/42-1/C-89/

Also, I am going to be sending a follow-up email to MP Blaikie since he clearly did not take the time to read (or have someone else read) the letter that I sent to him earlier in the week. 

[marnotom!]

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@momcqueen wrote:

Are you? Please sit back down.

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I think that was uncalled for.

My point is simply that there is no 100% complete or reliable information on the negotiations right now and we can't make any assumptions on who is making concessions and who isn't.

[kh-leslie]

Hello everyone,

This thread is getting a bit heated.  Please remember that it’s fine to disagree with others, but discussion should always remain courteous and respectful.

Thank you for your cooperation.

[momcqueen]

If mine was ‘uncalled for’ so was yours in the post that preceded it: message 461.

[cumos55]

Now is the time we should be looking towards a new reality....Back to work legislation will be law, most likely on Tuesday.

It may take a while for everything to settle down.

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The record of the Parliamentary debate was most interesting.....   It was like going around in circles.....  and every once in a while encountering a brick wall.

Many debaters chose to ignore the effect of the strike on small businesses....  Their focus was the detrimental effect of legislation on the Union.  Something that many will most likely question.

Government Minister Haydu  appeared to be the only person that consistently mentioned the effect of the strike on on all Canadians, with a specific reference to  small business.

[lotzofuniquegoodies]

I just want to know if when this discussion reaches 500 posts do we all get 10 free shipments with Canadapost and 100  listings with no sellers fees and this strike will be automagically ended with all parcels suddenly being delivered?  Ooopsie, too much eggnog!! My apologies!!!

-CM

[momcqueen]

That’s a really good idea. We should pitch it to someone. Hahahaha

[momcqueen]

Kudos to you for reading all of it. I had to abandon that task; my list of letters to write in response became too numerous. I’ll return to the task when I cannot sleep tonight.

[cumos55]

Only got half way through...  so far.....

[forester_studios]

Free listing for December would be nice. How about it Ebay. I haven't had a promo offer in 3 months at least.

[momcqueen]

“Only got half way through... so far.....”

I was looking for the Hansard on it, actually. I want to see the vote count. In particular, I wonder how that Liberal MP in BC voted after he was exposed by media in an unauthorized recording making promises to the union member(s) who camped in his constituency office in protest to vote against the back-to-work bill just to get rid of them. The recording was made (unbeknownst to him) by whomever it was in the union in his office while they spoke. For a member of Parliament to vote against his party’s own bill is what we used to call a career-limiting-move. Or CLM for short.