eBay

stanley613 · ‎09-12-2018

What happens now that orders are in the mail with a possible expected delivery date of September 30 and early October, what happens if not received there is no way of knowing whether these items will be received after strike is over. Will eBay delay delivery date?

marnotom! · ‎10-13-2018

In 2011, Canada Post was also helmed by a Conservative government appointee who attempted to bring in measures to dissuade Canadians use of and faith in the corporation, such as eliminating door to door delivery. Chopra, in effect, had a mandate from Harper to slowly weaken and dismantle Canada Post as the Crown Corporation we know it. It's no secret that the federal Conservatives have no love for Canada Post in principle, and were likely quite happy to see the lockout create even shakier ground for our national postal service to stand on.

CUPW also knows that Canada Post is on shaky ground and tried suggesting measures and additional services in the last round of bargaining (such as postal banking) that would diversify its operations. Of course, adding services in this manner would fly in the face of the mandate Chopra was given, so the union's ideas were rejected.

I suspect the federal Liberals are only interested in maintaining the status quo rather than bolstering Canada Post's fortunes.

ypdc_dennis · ‎10-13-2018

@cumos55 wrote:
It was in 2011-2012 that Canada Post did not like the rotating strikes
and ... that is when it became a lockout by Canada Post
People stopped using Canada Post.
and then..... Followed ... with a back to work order by the Government

And what has that to do with 2018?

Different management. Different issues. Different government.

People stopped using Canada Post because it was closed -- what a surprise!

cumos55 · ‎10-13-2018

Postal banking is promoted because that would be more money for Canada, money that could be used to pay the workers

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In 2011 It was during the rotating strike that people stopped using Canada Post...

and... That is when the lockout became a reality.... Canada Post was losing money.

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People are concerned about the possibility of a postal disruption in 2018. People are asking workers at a postal outlet..... about this possibility and then not using Canada Post.

The longer these negotiations continue, the greater the possibility that Canada Post cannot afford to continue.

There is also a concern over the Christmas time period..... It was during the Christmas period of 2017 that Canada Post was delivering over one million parcels each day , and one can conclude this should go up with each year after 2017.

Canada Post does promote parcels in their advertising on delivery vehicles.... Delivering the on-line world..... But what happens if the online world uses a delivery option other than Canada Post?

lachnrd · ‎10-14-2018

I’ve already said there is nothing to see here long ago.

The only thing that will happen is a possible rotating strike which means nothing so who cares.

I’ve been told many times by Canada Post account reps at my real job which is a multi million dollar account with Canada Post they will not be locking workers out and if anything a rotating strike might occur.

Nothing to see here business as usual.

cumos55 · ‎10-16-2018

From the CUPW website.......

The Canadian Union of Postal Workers (CUPW) today gave notices to Canada Post that job action will begin next week if agreements cannot be reached for the Urban Postal Operations and Rural and Suburban Mail Carriers (RSMC) bargaining units. If job action is necessary, rotating strikes will begin at 12:01 am, Monday, October 22. Locations have yet to be determined.

CUPW Issues 72-Hour Strike Notices

Today, your National Executive Board issued what is known as a “72-hour strike notice” to Canada Post for both the RSMC and Urban units. The National Executive Board has decided that the strike will begin on Monday morning, October 22, 2018, at 00:01 should we not have reached negotiated settlements.

cumos55 · ‎10-16-2018

Welcome to a new reality........

It was very quiet over the weekend.

The calm before the storm......

lachnrd · ‎10-16-2018

No surprise as it’s what was said would happen anyway. It’s all posturing and timed to put pressure on with Marijuana starting tomorrow.

A rotating 24 hour per location strike sure isn’t going to affect how I run anything.

mcrlmn · ‎10-16-2018

You betcha!

Show your customers you care... Mail your orders daily.

Rotating or not, that should still provide plenty of time for delivery.

cumos55 · ‎10-17-2018

A rotating strike begins on Monday, October 22.

A lockout occurred after about two weeks of rotating strikes in 2011-2012.

Canada Post was losing money because less people were using Canada Post

and eventually ...... the Government stepped in and ordered everyone back to work.

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The closer we get to Christmas the greater the impetus to end the strike/lockout .

cumos55 · ‎10-17-2018

The day everything gets settled will reach back to January 1, 2016, and the agreement would last for 4 years..

If this is correct, then negotiations should start again on January 1, 2020

cumos55 · ‎10-17-2018

The beginning of a rotating strike by CUPW was overshadowed by the first day of legal marijuana.

The union will introduce a rotating strike. The intent of CUPW is not to inconvenience the people that use Canada Post.

The last strike started with a rotating strike..... After about two weeks, Canada Post could not afford to continue. People chose not to use Canada Post.... That is when Canada Post ended everything with a lockout. Then the government issued a back to work order....

If the same happens in 2018, then everything should most likely be over early in November....

We shall see........

ypdc_dennis · ‎10-17-2018

@cumos55 wrote:
The day everything gets settled will reach back to January 1, 2016, and the agreement would last for 4 years..
If this is correct, then negotiations should start again on January 1, 2020

WRONG.

A new contract will start from January 2018. If 4 years, then 2022.

Some of the issues being settled are under the terms of the old 2016 contract.

ricarmic · ‎10-17-2018

I just resurrected my wordings from the last strike, these are the messages my buyers will get.....I always send a message advising the item is on its way, these simply has the possible delay included. Feel free to use any of the wordings yourself that you find of use....

New customer:

Thank you for your purchase and quick payment. Your parcel has been shipped out today, Monday XXXXXXX. Please note that there is a possibility of a Canada Post strike/lockout, which will likely be via rotating strikes, which may cause delivery delays. If a strike does occur, I very much appreciate your extra patience regarding any delays impacting arrival time. Once the parcel arrives, I hope you will find everything satisfactory. If you are not completely pleased with this transaction, please contact me via email. I will do my very best to resolve any problem you may have. Regards, RICARMIC (Ron)

Returning customer:

Thank you for your most recent purchase and quick payment. I am pleased you decided to purchase from me again. Your parcel has been shipped out today, Monday XXXXXX. Please note that there is a possibility of a Canada Post strike/lockout, which will likely be via rotating strikes, which may cause delivery delays. If a strike does occur, I very much appreciate your extra patience regarding any delays impacting arrival time. Regards, RICARMIC (Ron)

cumos55 · ‎10-17-2018

What ever is negotiated in 2018 could to some degree go back to January 1, 2016.

The new payment structure for rural workers is such a situation.

If a new contract extends to January 1, 2022..... it is something good for Canadian eBay sellers that use Canada Post. The situation in 2016, followed by this situation in 2018 is too much to take without a level of frustration.

The sooner negotiations end, the better it will be for all of us.

valuestore · ‎10-17-2018

Personally I hope cpc chops up the company, let the union stand strong on that one core remaining chunk of ice; of course they will all pile on and devour it until it sinks to the bottom beneath their feet.

femmefan1946 · ‎10-18-2018

You mean you hope that the profits fr a Canadian owned business get sent to foreign owners while their Canadian workers get lower pay and can no longer afford to buy the products you sell?

cumos55 · ‎10-19-2018

From the CUPW Website.....

October 18..... No response from CPC

"Since the Union issued 72-hour strike notice to Canada Post on Tuesday, October 16, 2018, there has been no response from Canada Post. Your negotiating committee is ready, willing and determined to get back to the bargaining table.

The National Executive Board has told Canada Post that we will start rotating strikes as of 00:01 Monday, October 22, 2018. The clock is ticking and yet there seems to be no urgency from Canada Post to resolve the issues that are necessary to get new collective agreements by Sunday night."

around_again_records · ‎10-19-2018

@femmefan1946 wrote:
You mean you hope that the profits fr a Canadian owned business get sent to foreign owners while their Canadian workers get lower pay and can no longer afford to buy the products you sell?

At this point most people cannot afford to ship the products I sell.

Personally I think tipping points have been reached, and the Union as far as I am concerned is getting their members to shoot themselves in the feet. The Union should be concerned about protecting jobs, like the ones lost when they let CP set up stores with non-Canada Post employees - how could the Union let that happen????. I do not think Postal Workers are hard done by, and it would be in the Unions best interest to quit asking for more and more and more and instead make sure they protect what they have.

When tipping points are reached, other methods are found, as has been seen with so many high paying Union jobs, they just disappear - Way to go unions, for not seeing the writing on the wall, and letting all your members down.