Have I got this right re possible tariffs? Your help for me to understand would be great.

[musicyouneed]

I sell CD's and about 50% of them were made in the US and the rest were made in Canada and EU.  This is my understanding and what I was thinking of doing.

From what I have been reading, it looks like shipments from China: Goods that qualify under the de minimis exemption will be subject to a duty of either 30% of their value, or $25 per item. That rate will increase to $50 per item on June 1, the White House said.  Once they get that in place they possibly will extend it to other countries.  

What I am thinking of doing. 

I would list CD's that are made in the US on .com and shipping would be to the US and Canada.  I assume that because the item was made in the US there would by no duty or tariff when shipping to the US.  Have I got that right?

CD's made in Canada I would list on .ca with shipping to Canada and to the US until any tariffs come into play.  If they do, I would then change the shipping to only be to Canada.  

Have I got that right?  I would really appreciate your help as this is a lot of work changing the listings to either .com or .ca   Thanks in advance. 

[flipistics]

@musicyouneed  I read it as 30% PLUS $25 per item, but I could be wrong.

I don't think anyone knows how they'll implement it for other countries. It's possible they may implement a $25 or $50 fee for all packages, which could theoretically apply regardless of what the country of origin is. For small sellers, the package fee could be much more damaging than any tariff would.

How much of your sales actually come from the USA in a category like music? I've generally found the market is rather satuated there for music and movies but decent here.

[musicyouneed]

Checked my sold.  Over the past 90 days I have sold 120 CD's and 67 of them went to the US, so just a little over 55%.  I am not sure where all of them were made.  

Yes, the package fee would kill sales.  

Any new listings I will list on the site where the CD was made.

[sin-n-dex]

I was going to start a post along these lines, but you pretty much covered the question I want to ask.

Are they serious that if you import a $5 item they're going to slap you with a $25 import fee on May 2? (which from what your post says will be $50 come June 1?)

I'm sure this is what they planned, but such a high fee on small items will cause people to not buy any of these small items if tariffs are being added. (But I'm sure they considered this and that was the point, however if people stop buying overseas then they won't be collecting any tariffs because there will be no packages).

I'm curious to see what happens when De Minimis goes away on China/Hong Kong made items. And what actually ends up being charged on these packages (because I'm sure some things will be in transit when the tariffs hit and buyers will complain).

I'm also curious to find out what Stallion does with duties paid postage and if that postage will include a $25 package fee (or if they're just going with the tariff rate).

I've heard there are protests against these tariffs around the world, I say good, make a lot of noise, I especially hope in the US they make a lot of noise so this tariff stuff can go away and we can all go back to our lives as they were before all this happened.

Someone also told me there's a time limit on executive orders before they have to be redone or the bill has to go through congress, or something like that? He can't just indefinitely issue exective orders to make these changes, it has to pass as a bill.

But I don't know anything about US government.

C.

[ypdc_dennis]

I read it as a minimum of 30% or $25 whichever is higher for items from China or Hong Kong.

This will have a big impact on low value stuff currently being sold on ebay that is being shipped directly to USA buyers.  Possibly an impact for amazon as well (71% of amazon.com sellers sold Chinese made products in 2023).

[sin-n-dex]

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@ypdc_dennis wrote:

I read it as a minimum of 30% or $25 whichever is higher for items from China or Hong Kong.

This will have a big impact on low value stuff currently being sold on ebay that is being shipped directly to USA buyers.  Possibly an impact for amazon as well (71% of amazon.com sellers sold Chinese made products in 2023).

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I guess it's not going to make sense to collect 30% of a $10 order.

But it's going to make shipping low value Chinese shipments impractical for the rest of us. In my store I have stamps, coins and banknotes from China and Hong Kong. No one is going to want to buy those with a minimum $25 package fee.

I know the point of this is to stop the low value shipments from China, but it's going to have a much widerspread effect on shippers from other places (like here). There's people who use Stallion to sell Tshirts that are made in China. The tariff will put those types of sellers (from Canada) out of business.

I guess we have to wait and see, but I'm going to remove all China/Hong Kong items from my store before the tariffs kick in. I was going to move them to the eBay.ca store (where it wouldn't matter because items ship from Canada and the tariff is the buyer's responsibility) but I imagine a lot of packages won't be claimed and we'll be refunding a lot of unhappy buyers who don't want to pay tariffs.

C.

[flipistics]

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@sin-n-dex wrote:

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I guess we have to wait and see, but I'm going to remove all China/Hong Kong items from my store before the tariffs kick in. I was going to move them to the eBay.ca store (where it wouldn't matter because items ship from Canada and the tariff is the buyer's responsibility) but I imagine a lot of packages won't be claimed and we'll be refunding a lot of unhappy buyers who don't want to pay tariffs.

C.

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You might as well put them in your Canadian store and just turn off USA shipping for them. They can still sell to customers here in Canada (and other countries).

[ricarmic]

Hmm this made me think, eBay knows we're Canadian because of our country of registration. 

I would think that they would treat our items the same whether we listed them on .COM or .CA, but I might be wrong.

At this point, my plan is to not worry about it, I'm going to put the COO on the forms, and I'm going to wait to see if I have any packages returned, refused etc, and I'll deal with the consequences from that.

My bigger concern at the moment is how much delay is going to be added to stuff going through cusoms....

[sin-n-dex]

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@flipistics wrote:

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@sin-n-dex wrote:

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I guess we have to wait and see, but I'm going to remove all China/Hong Kong items from my store before the tariffs kick in. I was going to move them to the eBay.ca store (where it wouldn't matter because items ship from Canada and the tariff is the buyer's responsibility) but I imagine a lot of packages won't be claimed and we'll be refunding a lot of unhappy buyers who don't want to pay tariffs.

C.

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You might as well put them in your Canadian store and just turn off USA shipping for them. They can still sell to customers here in Canada (and other countries).

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That sounds like a good idea (I guess I'll have to turn off USA shipping on all items eventually when the rest of the world tariffs kick in with no de minimis).

I'm not in any hurry to do anything because it seems like whenever I plan to do something, things in the White House change and mess up my plans.

I'm trying not to let this chaos affect me but I don't do very well with confusion and chaos, and the stress of all this is causing me additional migraines. (I have them anyway, but I have more of them when there's chaos and that's what the past few months have been with the tariffs).

C.

[flipistics]

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@sin-n-dex wrote:

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That sounds like a good idea (I guess I'll have to turn off USA shipping on all items eventually when the rest of the world tariffs kick in with no de minimis).

I'm not in any hurry to do anything because it seems like whenever I plan to do something, things in the White House change and mess up my plans.

I'm trying not to let this chaos affect me but I don't do very well with confusion and chaos, and the stress of all this is causing me additional migraines. (I have them anyway, but I have more of them when there's chaos and that's what the past few months have been with the tariffs).

C.

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If you create a separate shipping policy for China (and Hong Kong) items, you can turn sales to the States on and off for them with a few clicks.